for the benefit of those who can't grasp the point about tyres, some information from those who have more experience, if the forum software allows it. OK they can't spell tyre but otherwise worth studying

https://www.michigan.gov/msp/divisions/ohsp/safety-programs/winter-driving/winter-tire-safety-tips

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Sandbach hasn't been gritted. Isn't there an ambulance station in Sandbach ? With my own eyes last night, an ambulance sliding all over the place in Sandbach TC.

The council are terrible, quoting only major routes are getting salt ? Cheshire ? The salt towns ? Just saying.

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Hello Steve.
I thank you for your comments.
But it would be nice to know what type of employment you served in your years.
I did server and apprenticeship on road construction gaining my city and guilds at Stoke college,
What qualifications do you have to comment on roads and the idea of gritting them.
I don't think that being abusive and rude helps the conversation one bit,

nobody knows (or cares) what a paviors mason was but it has nothing to do with with weather or car tyre design. It doesn't matter where the grit landed - last night it was buried in to much snow to do anything. Oddly in the 1960s car tyres were probably more use in snow than modern ones, but they were no use at motorway speed when they got too warm. And whilst the snow was falling yesterday evening BBC4 repeated the 1963 documentary about the Big Freeze - there wasn't much sign of old fashioned gritting methods being any use in that either. As far as this problem goes Not Very Qualified is still a long step ahead of you in this matter.

I just Googled what exactly a paviors mason is, the only real links are you posting your thoughts on various news outlets, In fact you've posted it so many times that Google AI now says "The search results show the term used by individuals in the Cheshire, UK area who served a four-year apprenticeship" - congratulations, you've finally influenced something!!!

If Cheshire east council had a brain they would be dangerous,let alone gifted.
In the 1960s we didn't have computers and weather information like we have today,
And life went on when I was on the council all they had was a radio and common sense.
Today when they grit the Roads the gritter travels that fast if your walking along the path you would get grit lash,
That's why there's no grit on the road because it's all flung on to the paths.
And as for the roads being resurfaced unless they have put a blinding or a sealant on at the road at the time of being resurfaced then I'm afraid the resefacing work is a complete waste of time.
I suppose they think it comes at a cost that we can do without,
But now the ice has got into the ashfelt this is what causes the damage and it costs more money than ever to repair.
And before any body thinks they know better on Cheshire east have a talk to me somebody that knows what they are talking about .
A time served paviors mason ,
I served on the highway department when the job was done by professionals,
Not by people who have an NVQ.
By the way an NVQ stands for
NOT VERY QUALIFIED.

I assume by "Boffin" chipper means someone with at least "O Levels". Hasn't it occured to him that if it was possible countries which have these conditions for months at a time would be using it - but they aren't. They may not use rocksalt (which is what grit is), Bavaria had a liquid based on pig urine, which may be the stuff that Operator mentioned. But nothing works when buried under a few inches of snow.

The number one problem in these conditions is the chronic lack of knowledge and ability of british drivers. Too stupid to even read the handbooks of their own cars. Assuming you've got one (some manufacturers don't even bother printing them anymore, the handful of ownes who want to know something have to download them) go to the section about tyres. 95% will actually say that the standard tyres are not suitable for snow or freezing conditions (often specified as below +7 degrees) and say you must have either "Winter", "All season" or "Mud&Snow" tyres - all terms which are clearly marked on your tyres, often with a snowflake symbol. So are yours marked with this??? Now go and read your insurance policy, something else which few people do. Does it have a clause about the vehicle being used and maintained in accordance with manufacturers recommendations? If it does, and your handbook specifies better tyres when in snow, then technically you aren't insured!!! So you may ask why don't the police do anything? Well if you see a parked police "response" car this week go and have a look at the side of the tyres and see if you can find the special markings which should stand out in big letters (or snowflake symbols).

And why do the manufactuers sell their cars with tyres which shouldn't be used in some condtions? Because the tyres they fit give better fuel economy on the days when they are safe and that figure goes in the offical docuemnts - which is a big thing in selling cars and affects tax ratings in various countries.

It's already available, airports use it among other places but it was phenomenally expensive. 25 years ago my then employers used to use it on a stretch of road approx 4 lanes width by half a mile in area. It cost 10k per application